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So, aside from my main stickypost, I have a Hair To-Do List, a Pregmorph Reference List, and a Hats and Headwear Resource/Wishlist. This post is going to be MOSTLY a wishlist, but secondarily a resource post, partlyy because I want to kind of streamline my main wishlist. If I put all my clothing conversion wishes in there, I'd be... Well, I'd have a very long and untidy wishlist.

Age Conversions

The thing about clothing patterns in the Middle Ages is that they were very, very similar for everybody. A shirt was essentially a shift, cut shorter, a robe and a gown could be the same garment depending on the sex of the wearer, children wore simplified versions of adult clothing, and everybody wore hats. If you were still growing, your clothing was made so that you could grow into it, because it was expected to last for years-- or there was no point in wasting the time it would take to make it by hand.

Since I'm actually trying to streamline how many meshes I have in my game, this is going to turn into a list of 'basic' Medieval meshes that could stand to be shifted to different ages. The meshes I personally desperately need will be marked with a *star*-- or a whole string of stars, if I'd be willing to give my eyeteeth or firstborn for the conversion.

To BU
Pick a baby gown, any baby gown, and I want Cynnix's coif added to it. Included in the zip are meshes by Bloom, Tenshii Akari, Chris Hatch, I think TheRaven... I'll figure out the gender-separated stuff myself, but I want cute little caps on my babies sometimes.
Download Mesh under 'Decently Covered' or 'I Got Better.'
Beth provides and I got to work! More outfits soon, and blessings on the head of Chris Hatch for making non-default baby clothes a possibility.

To PU
Nothing yet

To CU
Oph3lia's Bracer-free edit of Aligeth's Robin Hood Mesh Cynnix provides! I've recolored this; check the Clothing: Child or Toddler tag to the right to find Du Lac tunics for little boys.
Cynnix's edit of Ophelia's Crucifix-free edit of Aligeth's Friar Tuck Mesh (with FantasyRogue's poulaines) Cynnix provides!
**Cynnix's Laced-Sleeve Gown (I want those sleeves for little girls) Cynnix provides!I've recolored this; check the Clothing: Child or Toddler tag to the right to find Du Lac cotehardies for little girls.
***Iamliz's Medieval Alpha Dress Cynnix provides! I've recolored this; check the Clothing: Child or Toddler tag to the right to find Front-Laced Lady kirtles for little girls.
***Cynnix's Edit of Needlecream's Edit of a Liana Dress and Cynnix provides!
*Beryllium's Frigg Dress Cynnix provides!
***Heget's Perfect Tunics (though they lack fatmorphs)
***Parsimonious Kate's Faerie Witch dress (k8facfaeriewitchdress101009) Cynnix provides!
Besen's nachtemed121005 robe Cynnix Provides!

To TF
(always with a pregmorph)
***Parsimonious Kate's Faerie Witch dress (k8facfaeriewitchdress101009, opening up the possibility of AL witch defaults) Cynnix provides!
Parsimonious Kate Byzantine Dress ((k8parsfacbyzdress140206)
Pronupsims Padme Wedding Gown (either of the first two gowns)
Sim-Ages Medieval Fantasy dress Cynnix provides!
***Cocomama's Wide Fur Coat Long Dicreasy did an AF version! And Dicreasy provides a TF version, too!
Cocomama's Small Fur Coat Long
*Sims 2 Store Castle Set TM Knights (just fix the neck. Everybody looks unisex in that much chainmaille and padding). Cynnix provides!
****Cynnix's edit of Needlecream's Liana edit Cynnix provides!

To TM
**Jaccirocker's Runner Guy Tiggerypum alpha tunic
Besen's nachtemed121005 robe Cynnix Provides!
Gara's AM mesh 01 (click clothes, then Male Everyday & Swimwear)
Sim-Ages Royal Velvet Man
Tomyang's Changpao
Niaolong's FtM Nightlife Vampire gown (my personal copy, pinned to NL)
G-Knee's block and sexyfeet conversions of the Sim-Ages nightshirt
Heget's Perfect Tunics, with fatmorph at least

To AF
(always with a pregmorph)
*Sims 2 Store Castle Set AM Knight (just adjust the neck, everybody looks unisex in that much chainmaille) Cynnix provides!
Parsimonious Kate TF Rengown (k8parsftfrengown021605; the AF rengown is corseted uncomfortably)

To AM
Nothing yet

To EF
I let elders use adult clothes.

To EM
Letting elders use adult clothing saves space. Saving space saves loading time!

Custom Body Shapes


I have two problems with using custom body shapes: one, I can never find enough Medieval clothing meshes to make me happy, and two, when you find a great female shape, there's almost never a male counterpart to go with it. I don't hold with pairing RenGal with Bodybuilders or custom female shapes with default Maxis men. Really, there are only three custom bodyshapes I want in my game, and they hearken back to the old Sims 1 days of Fat, Fit, and Skn.

For slenderness, gender-ambiguity, and women dressing as men to run away, run away and join the army, run away and go for a sailor, et cetera, I want Aquilegia's Androgyny in my game.

For strength, for knights and blacksmiths and... yep, also women who run away to pursue masculine pursuits, or who just help their fathers around the forge, I want a combination of Jaccirocker's Runner for men and Marvine's Athletic Girl for women. (A showerproof skintone combo was in the works, but Jacci is having some medical problems. I don't mind waiting for her.)

For well-fed lords, healthy ladies, stout bakers, busty wenches, and the like, the body shape I want doesn't exist yet. Basically I want something one step up from the Maxis fat morph, with sexyfeet, an even fatter fatmorph, and I don't mind if there isn't an elder shape if there's a child shape. For the purposes of this wishlist, I'm calling them the Hypothetical Heavyweights. (For a female shape, either Dr. Pixel's Well-Rounded Sim or Cynnix's Warlokk RenGal V2 would work-- I'd even use both, if both had male counterparts.)

I was going to make a very comprehensive list linking every mesh I want adapted to every age and shape, but that list had a LOT of repeats in it. As with age conversions, there are really only so many different meshes that need to be converted to make a bodyshape Medievally playable, so I'm going to start with the ones that would need to be converted to all the bodyshapes (for the applicable age and gender), then list the meshes that each specific age/gender/bodyshape combo calls for. If this is super-confusing please let me know and I'll figure out some other way to do it. It took me three days to figure this out, collect all the links, and code this and the pregmorph database/wishlist. (No Castaways Stories meshes are listed here, but if you wanted to do them for custom body shapes, you can get all the native meshes here and here and here. You would have my gratitude, but I'm already begging for sexyfeet and/or pregmorphs added to all those meshes, and I don't expect anyone else is as in love with Castaway Stories as I am.) I'll mark the meshes I most desperately want converted with a *star*. (As far as I'm concerned, a usable Medieval bodyshape clothing kit consists of the starred meshes under the All Shapes headers plus Tiggerypum's Alpha Tunic, which I already have for seven of the eleven shapes I'd want it converted to fit. ... Most people don't need the ninjas and plantsims. I love plantsims probably more than is good for me, and my clergysims (plus any orphaned or unwanted children handed over to the church) wear the ninja outfit, as it is perfectly egalitarian.)

All Shapes, All Affected Ages and Genders
***(AF, TF, and AM with pregmorphs)
A true-nude mesh with sexy feet, nipples, and clefts where appropriate. ('Naked' for underwear or PJs is never really out of period.)

All Shapes TF and AF
(always with a pregmorph)
*Cynnix's laced-sleeve gown. Androgyny by Cynnix I have recolored this mesh! Check the Clothing: Aquilegia's Androgyny Body Shape and look for Du Lac Cotehardies.
*Cynnix's sexyfeet edit of Needlecream's edit of a Liana dress. AG by Cynnix Now with RenGal V2 by Cynnix!
*Beryllium's Frigg's Dress with Dicreasy's bustline fix (especially for Athletic Girl) AG by Cynnix
***Iamliz's Medieval Alpha Dress AG by Cynnix, Androgyny by Cynnix, and RenGal by Cynnix.
Lord Dragonstone's Peasant Sleeves gown (as seen on Sherahbim's Maiden gown) AG by Cynnix
*Cynnix's assorted variations of Amaryll's summery strapdress (both sleeve variants with flats and sexy feet, please)
Mio's Italian Renaissance gown
Tiggerypum's Layered Medieval dress AG by Cynnix
Parsimonious Kate's TF Rengown
Cocomama's small fur coat long
***Cocomama's wide fur coat long (especially for Hypothetical Heavyweights; find Dicreasy's Pregmorph here.)
Cocomama's coat fur trim long
*Parsimonious Kate's Faerie Witch dress (k8facfaeriewitchdress101009)
Parsimonious Kate Byzantine Dress ((k8parsfacbyzdress140206)
Pronupsims Padme Wedding Gown (either of the first two gowns)
Sim-Ages Medieval Fantasy dress (especially for Hypothetical Heavyweight) AG by Cynnix
Aligeth's Woolen Chemise (I have a version with a pregmorph, probably by Cynnix, but I don't remember where I got it)
**Basegame tfbodyniteshirt (one with block feet and one with sexy feet, please)
**Basegame afbodynightgown (one with block feet and one with sexy feet, please)

All Shapes TF only
(always with a pregmorph)
**Cocomama's Plantsim conversion
**Cocomama's Ninja conversion
Cocomama's Nightlife vampire gown
Sims 2 Store Castle Set Celtic Princess Gown
Basegame tfbodyformaltrumpet

All Shapes AF only
(always with a pregmorph)
Sims 2 Store Castle Set Celtic Princess Gown
Basegame afbodydresslongloose (without dangly bit)
Nightlife afbodydressmedieval
*Seasons Plantsim
*Open for Business afbodyninja
*Bon Voyage afbodysuperninja

All Shapes TM and AM
AM needs pregmorphs
*Oph3lia's bracer-free edit of Aligeth's Robin Hood tunic
Mio's Italian Renaissance tunic
******FantasyRogue's separate tunics and chausses
Gara'sAM mesh 01 (click clothes, then Male Everyday & Swimwear)
Aligeth's Antique Linen nightshirt
Aligeth's Lord of the Manor nightshirt
*Iamliz13's Rus Viking tunic (possibly not AM for Runner; the LBB version is passable)
*Cynnix's Aligeth Friar Tuck with FantasyRogue poulaines
Cynnix's update of Lunar Eclipse's Count D robe
Marja's no-jewel versions of Lunar Eclipse's Count D robe
G-Knee's block and sexyfeet conversions of the Sim-Ages nightshirt
Heget's Perfect Tunics, which lack morphs.
*Apartment Life ambodywitch

All Shapes TM only
*Cocomama's Plantsim conversion
*Cocomama's Ninja conversion
*Apartment Life tmbodywitch

All Shapes AM only
(always with a pregmorph)
*Seasons Plantsim
*Open for Business ambodyninja
*Bon Voyage ambodysuperninja

To Aquilegia's Androgyny TF and AF
(always with a pregmorph)
**Oph3lia's bracer-free edit of Aligeth's Robin Hood tunic
**Cynnix's Aligeth Friar Tuck with FantasyRogue poulaines
Marja's \no-jewel versions of Lunar Eclipse's Count D robe
Cynnix's update of Lunar Eclipse's Count D robe
Besen's amnachtemd robe
G-Knee's block and sexyfeet conversions of the Sim-Ages nightshirt
***FantasyRogue's separate tunics and chausses
G-Knee's age conversion of Iamliz13's Rus Viking tunic
Gara'sAM mesh 01 (click clothes, then Male Everyday & Swimwear)
Mio's Italian Renaissance tunic
***Heget's Perfect Tunics, which lack morphs.

To Aquilegia's Androgyny TF only
(always with a pregmorph)
Mijutaro's TF Kimono (not dying for it, but it would be nice)
Apartment Life tmbodywitch (note the M)

To Aquilegia's Androgyny AF only
(always with a pregmorph)
Happy Holidays AFbodykimono
Bon Voyage AFbodyyukata
Apartment Life ambodywitch (note the M)

To Aquilegia's Androgyny TM and AM
AM needs pregmorphs
Beryllium's Frigg's Dress (link leads to Dicreasy's fixed-bustline version... which is... less important for androgynes, but there you go anyway)
*Cynnix's laced-sleeve gown Cynnix provides!
*Cynnix's assorted variations of Amaryll's summery strapdress (both sleeve variants with flats and sexy feet, please)
Cocomama's small fur coat long
Cocomama's wide fur coat long
Cocomama's coat fur trim long
*Parsimonious Kate's Faerie Witch dress (k8facfaeriewitchdress101009)
*Basegame tfbodyniteshirt (one with block feet and one with sexy feet, please)
*Basegame afbodynightgown (one with block feet and one with sexy feet, please)
***Iamliz's Medieval Alpha Dress Cynnix provides!

To Aquilegia's Androgyny TM only
Niaolong's AM Nightlife Vampire dress
Mio's Italian Renaissance gown
Sims 2 Store Castle Set Celtic Princess Gown
Basegame tfbodyformaltrumpet

To Aquilegia's Androgyny AM only
always with a pregmorph
Parsimonious Kate Byzantine Dress ((k8parsfacbyzdress140206)
Pronupsims Padme Wedding Gown (either of the first two gowns)
Sims 2 Store Castle Set Celtic Princess Gown

To Runner/Athletic Girl TF and AF
(always with a pregmorph)
**FantasyRogue's separate tunics and chausses (flat chests on tunics)
**Iamliz13's Rus Viking tunic (flat chest or full chest. Or both. She's a Viking.)
*Oph3lia's bracer-free edit of Aligeth's Robin Hood tunic (neck-match only, the cowl is good boob camoflage)
Mio's Italian Renaissance tunic (flat chest)
G-Knee's block and sexyfeet conversions of the Sim-Ages nightshirt (flat chest, full chest, or both)
***Nude blockfoot bodysuit with relatively smoothed-over buttcrack and flattened chest (for breast-bound chausses. I'll be making chausses until I die)

To Runner/Athletic Girl TF only
(always with a pregmorph)
See TF-only all body shapes

To Runner/Athletic Girl AF only
(always with a pregmorph)
See AF-only all body shapes

To Runner/Athletic Girl TM and AM
(AM needs pregmorphs)
**Nude blockfoot bodysuit with relatively smoothed-over buttcrack (for chausses. I'll be making chausses until I die)

To Runner/Athletic Girl TM only
******Tiggerypum's TM Alpha tunic

To Runner/Athletic Girl AM only
(always with a pregmorph)
See AM-only all body shapes

To Hypothetical Heavyweights CU
**Cynnix's Aligeth Friar Tuck with FantasyRogue poulaines
**Cynnix's assorted variations of Amaryll's summery strapdress (both sleeve variants with flats and sexy feet, please)
*Iamliz's Assassin's Creed robe for children
*Aquilegia's CU Ninja conversion
*Cocomama's CU Plantsim conversion
Aligeth's CM Antique Linen nightshirt
***Kaylynn's Simple Shift and Silvain's sexyfeet edit of same

To Hypothetical Heavyweights CF
***Iamliz's Medieval Alpha Dress Cynnix provides!
*Cynnix's Laced-Sleeve Gown
Aligeth's Linen and Lace nightdress
Cynnix's non-flickering edit of Tiggerypum's FC Long Gown
Cynnix's non-flickering edit of Tiggerypum's FC Layered Medieval
Cynnix's non-flickering edit of Tiggerypum's FC Long Bell Gown
Ghanima's CF Witch
*Ghanima's CF Vampire
***Cynnix's Edit of Needlecream's Edit of a Liana Dress and Cynnix provides, at least for RGv2.
*Beryllium's Frigg Dress
***Parsimonious Kate's Faerie Witch dress (k8facfaeriewitchdress101009)
**Cocomama's Wide Fur Coat Long

To Hypothetical Heavyweights CM
**FantasyRogue's separate tunics and chausses
G-Knee's age conversion of Iamliz13's Rus Viking tunic
**Oph3lia's Bracer-free edit of Aligeth's Robin Hood Mesh
*****Tiggerypum's CM Alpha tunic
Tiggerypum's CM Renshirt (as seen on Sherahbim's Gypsies)
*Ghanima's CM Warlock
**Nude blockfoot bodysuit with relatively smoothed-over buttcrack (for chausses. I'll be making chausses until I die)
***Heget's Perfect Tunics, which lack morphs.

To Hypothetical Heavyweights TF and AF
(always with a pregmorph)
See AF/TF all body shapes

To Hypothetical Heavyweights TF only
(always with a pregmorph)
See TF-only all body shapes

To Hypothetical Heavyweights AF only
(always with a pregmorph)
See AF-only all body shapes

To Hypothetical Heavyweights TM and AM
AM needs pregmorphs
*FantasyRogue's separate tunics and chausses
**Tiggerypum's Alpha tunic
Tiggerypum's Renshirt (as seen on Sherahbim's Gypsies)
***Nude blockfoot bodysuit with relatively smoothed-over buttcrack (for chausses. I'll be making chausses until I die)

To Hypothetical Heavyweights TM only
*Sims 2 Store Castle Set TM Knight

To Hypothetical Heavyweights AM only
(always with a pregmorph)
*Sims 2 Store Castle Set AM Knight
*Open for Business Knight Armor
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