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Where the bee sucks, there suck I;
In the cowslip's bell I lie...

It's that time again... Time for Hat to do something ambitious and photo-heavy! Because I have 400 downloads on my default Plantsim skin, and because the theme this month is just too awesome to pass up... and because I don't really like any of the Ideal Plantsim replacements out there.

When Worf 84 uploaded a multiple Ideal Plantsim mod, I was thrilled... except with the faces. I have a certain idea in my head of how plantsims ought to look-- I think of dryads and nymphs and, for some reason, Peter Pan (I think it's the outfit); earthy, pointy, laughing creatures, and nothing out there quite suited what I wanted. But hey, I'd done a stupidly huge eight-PT mod, so how hard could it be? It turns out it's not that hard at all, so. On we go!

Same format as the PT mod, here-- you get a cute portrait and then links to the Ideals as they'll appear in your Sim Bin (no makeup, Base Game hair, clothes from either the Base Game or Seasons), as well as pics of their offspring with...

Elm. Because Elm was already a plantsim and she's just full of recessive genetics.

S1, Green Eyes, Red Hair, Female
Front | Profile | Quarter
Blossom: Toddler | Adult
Bough: Toddler | Adult

S2, Green Eyes, Blonde Hair, Female
Front | Profile | Quarter
Holly: Toddler | Adult
Berry: Toddler | Adult
Ash: Toddler | Adult
Yew: Toddler | Adult

S3, Brown Eyes, Brown Hair, Male
Front | Profile | Quarter
Pinon: Toddler | Adult
Alder: Toddler | Adult

S4, Brown Eyes, Black Hair, Male
Front | Profile | Quarter
Lily: Toddler | Adult

That's seven thousand pictures, now there are some more words.

One Fish: There are six files included in the download; you need only five of them. I subfoldered everything; no matter what your game configuration, you need the folder labeled Ideal Plantsims. There was some kind of change to how Plantsims were coded between Free Time and Apartment Life, so if you have Seasons, Seasons and Bon Voyage, Seasons and Free Time, or Seasons, Bon Voyage, AND Free Time, you need the folder labeled MOD SSN-BV-FT. If you have Apartment Life, Mansion and Garden, the Sims 2 Store Edition, or any of the new bundle packs like Best of Business, you need the folder labeled MOD AL-MG.

Two Fish: Uh, yeah, the pre-AL mod is untested. Worf 84's works, I didn't change anything but which Sims it pointed at, so it should work fine. However, I'd advise running it in a testerhood for a while.

Red Fish: This is a default replacement, and as such the usual default replacement rules apply: there can be only one... MOD FILE. Everybody knows that, with a multi-PT mod, when you want to switch you have to leave the Sims in. I'm told you don't have to do that with a multi-Ideal mod, because Ideal Plantsims don't show up in the family tree. Again, I'm going to advise playing it safe and leaving them in your Sim Bin. (Like a PT mod, these sims will show up in your Sim Bin. Don't delete them via the bin.) However, you can't have two multi-Ideal mod files in your game, so be sure you're not trying to play with mine and Worf 84's at the same time.

Blue Fish: Usual default policies apply-- do whatever you want with this as long as a) I get credit if you use my Sims b) Worf 84 gets credit if you use his mod and c) NO MONEY CHANGES HANDS. I hate it when people charge for defaults or extractions. Don't do that.

... Yep, that'll do me.


(Plants in the photos are from all over, mostly MTS and extracted Castaway stuff from MATY. Yes, I do use Poifectly Poiple's No Leafy Plantsim Hair mod, which makes hair for plantbabies something of a crapshoot. Plantsim tunics are by EAxis and Kittylyn74. My Ideals are wearing Sausage and Treeag's work, I just made new all-hairtone hairstyles out of 'em.)

Date: 2010-04-09 07:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sonnesims.livejournal.com
I was almost going to sleep, I just wanted to check my favorite DWs and LJs before throwing my tired self on bed. Thank to you it will be hard to sleep before testing this mod. I particularly love Primrose and Sequoia. Thank you very much.

- Sonne

Date: 2010-04-09 11:59 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] pinketamine
At GOS I posted somehow formal so... OMG I LOVE THEM!! hahaha.
I really like all the sims, Primrose has anyway a charming "bad kid" face that is lovely.
That outfit made me think of plantsims as Peter Pan creatures xD

If I have all the EPs... which version do I download? Boyfriend's (PC) how much I love you.

You should show us how you managed to do this (tutorials, you know) even when your sims look so lovely that I don't think I'll ever made one of this my own.


Date: 2011-03-27 05:09 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Out of curiosity, did you ever post an Ideal kit? I was going to ask you if you had to change th BHAVs for the Ideal but since you say you may post a kit I thought I'd ask. I don't know if I'd be able to change it even with Simgaroop's tutorial if there wasn't a kit. I have skins I want to use for the PolliTechs and I tested the mod and everything went great! I'm just making the real PT's I want to use so I have something I won't be embarrassed about and my own creation to show you. I should be done soon.

Date: 2010-04-09 02:28 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] eefje00704
Congratulations, you have made the first Ideal Plantsims I have ever liked! Thanks for sharing Hat!

Date: 2010-04-09 10:00 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] morgaine2005.wordpress.com
I already said it at GOS (I think) but I'll say it again -- THANK YOU!!!

Now I can breed plantbabies Marigold and Ash without being terrified of how the offspring will look! :D

Date: 2010-04-12 12:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sonnesims.livejournal.com
Just to let you know, as you seemed to be interested on my skintones, I updated my LJ with a WIP post featuring the Drow skintone - with Mouseyblue's help I fixed some flaws on the face. I'm thinking about working exclusively on it by now and release it sooner than the rest of the set - both because it seemed to be the most appreciated by people who gave feedback and because it's so much fun to work with it. Really, it's the nicest tone to work with.

I would love if you could drop by my lJ and give me some feedback - until you commented on my post at the Show Off Your Creations thread I was very insecure about the Drow skin - and as you appreciated it so much your opinion is invaluable to me.


Date: 2010-04-12 01:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sonnesims.livejournal.com
Ah, sorry, I didn't change the lJ default settings and didn't know that anon and openID posting were not allowed. My bad. It's fixed now (I hope).

I don't have a body texture yet, to tell the truth I'm not 100% sure about which textures I'll use. I have only the vague idea of using something like a SimCribbling male body as normal state and blend it with Ephemera skins' abs to make a more muscular fit state. And for females, I think I'll go with an Enayla body - the latest "Pixie" skins available at InSim, with some fixes (seams, feet, intimate details, Warlokk bodyshape alignment). I'm very open to suggestions, though.

About the gums, I thought about very dark ones - just like seen on some breeds of dogs. I think it's more plausible, if drows existed, of course.

I'll fix the pixellation in the skin compiling process. A question, though: do you happen to know how I can easily recognize textures in SimPE? I mean, the TXTRs don't have descriptive names, and I'm not always sure which texture is which when I build the DXTs.

And what do you think about elder faces? Are drows supposed to age?, I mean, should they have wrinkled faces?

Again, I'm very open to suggestions, tips, critiques, and I would like to hear yours.

Date: 2010-04-12 05:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sonnesims.livejournal.com
I wasn't a skinner either, I just caught some hints and tips here and there - from Mouseyblue, Needlecream, Bosie, Pooklet and some other talented skinblenders - and decided to try my hand at it. Actually it's not that hard, basically it just presumes some knowledge about blend modes, layer masks and adjustment layers - if you know how to deal with these tools and techniques it's pretty easy to make skin blends. Some time ago I tried to skin without this knowledge and it was hard, boring and the results were frustrating. But once I decided to learn these techniques, I did it easily (there are some great tutorials, like the one from Bosie at GoS - the most useful tutorial for skinblending ever - and some tips I collected all over GoS, LJs and DWs) and with pretty good results. Seriously, I encourage you to start skinblending, it's so much fun, very rewarding and really addictive.

The fact that among more than a hundred of skintones you still have significant genetic gaps doesn't surprise me - people usually focus on either pale or very dark skins and seem to forget the tan and medium tones. I don't know why, maybe they live in places where the mixing of races is not common? Dunno. But it's a shame, as the variety of skin colors in humans is so beautiful - well, at least I think so.

I will take into consideration your preferences about body textures as they are mine too. Although I wanted some ripped abs for the fit state, I just would give it to a supernatural creature - which I suppose to have superhuman powers - because I HATE ripped abs on real men. It's totally artificial. And I don't want them on my male sims either. And I don't like the perpetual wonderbra either - again, it's totally artificial. I like some definition on the cleavage though - but definately not pushed-up breasts.

And that's a good method of telling ages and states apart in SimPE, althought I thought that there was a way to do this through some information on SimPE itself.

I appreciate when my elder sims look old too - grannies and grampies are adorable. But I asked you about the wrinkles concerning the particular case of drows (or some other sort of fantasy creature), I don't know much about them and don't know if there is some literature which refers to them aging or not. But maybe it's a silly concern of mine.

Date: 2010-04-27 07:13 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] drankmywar
I have a really silly question... actually it's probably a stupid question, but you are so nice that I was hoping you wouldn't laugh at me for asking it. I know that you can't have more than one mod file, but can I have different pt's? Like if I only wanted to use primrose and linden and wanted to use two others from a different pt pack would it be okay or would it bork up the game?

Date: 2010-04-27 08:47 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] drankmywar
Ah ok, thank you so much :D

Date: 2010-04-27 10:18 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] drankmywar
Once again, thank you sooooooo much! I've never used simPE, but I followed simagroop's tutorial and did what you said and I think it turned out awesome. I haven't checked everything in-game yet, but I think I did it right. Anyways, THANK YOU SO MUCH. :)

Date: 2010-10-27 10:11 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
If you will indulge me to repeat what has already been spoken widely and better than I can myself, WOW. Just. Wow. You are an amazing creator, Hat! I really appreciate the wonderful creators like you who keep the game interesting and make possible the creation of countless secondary worlds of delight and fancy. One quick question--should the Ideal Plantsims show up in the SimBin? I dl'd everything last night--got the AL-MG version since I have all EP's and (nearly) all SP's (not GL or Celebration), but didn't see the new Ideals in the sim bin. Any ideas? The new PTs (THANK YOU!) showed up fine, but not the ideal plantsims. Hmmm. Curiouser and Curiouser. Oh, yes, and before I forget. Noticed the same thing with the Oak leaf default (all kinds of awesome!)--my existing plant sims kept their EAxis leaves (is this normal?).

Again--the debt of gratitude cannot be repaid in words, I LOVE your work! Thanks so much for making it available to the community :)

Date: 2010-10-27 11:09 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Deleting cache files as I type *breath held*
Ah, yes--done. Nope, no other leafydefaults--yours are so amazing! And yes, I *think* they DID show up on a plantbaby, come to think of it. I spawned one to check and --no flower--so yes, it DOES work on newly spawned sprouts :] Just not on the parent--so I will check to see if deleting cache files works. Thanks!! **Rushing away to load the game**

Date: 2010-10-28 09:26 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
OK, so here's what happened--I spawned a plantbaby and she had no flower, so looks good. I immediately grew her up with the Simblender, and she had Maxis leaves for hair (?!). Maybe, though, if I wait for her to grow up naturally--dunno (??). However, even though the ideals don't show up in the SimBin, I think her "mother" (the PlantSim was a Man) might have been Primrose due to her facial structure, so I do think the Ideals are working. Is there any way to know which Ideal contributed genetics to the plantbaby? Just wondering. And thanks so much for enduring my endless ponderings! I really appreciate it.


Date: 2011-03-27 05:22 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
So I was reading you talking about how you don't makes skins...so I'm wondering where these skins with the leaves came from. Did you blend them? I'm just wondering to download them to possibly use for my Ideals that I'm making. Although I was also wondering if it came in a greater *ehem* range of tones. I'd love to see it blended with the Licorice skin for instance. Ah o well. I'm working on this for the next couple of weeks. You've been most helpful and very quick to respond and I've learned a lot from you. Thanks.

Also, did you change the mod to have 8 slots? If so, how did you do that? I'd like to have 8 slots for both my PT and my Ideals if possible. That would make me most pleased with my simming life. Thanks again.

Re: Skins

Date: 2011-03-27 06:11 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I think I just figured out the skin thing...lol...on another note...do you have your recolors of the plan leaf hair available?

Distorted Plantbaby

Date: 2012-04-10 09:16 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Dunno if I did something wrong, but when I had my plantsim spawn a plantbaby, the face was extremely distorted and looked glitchy. I tried the fix flashing blue option with the lot debugger, but that didn't work. Tried some other things, but finally I gave her plastic surgary - using the default face # 1, and she looked normal - whichever ideal plantsim that was chosen had stretched her cheekbones and other features to stick far above her head. Weird.

Her mum has default face # 1 as well I think, and she also has custom skin and hair... her name is Bluebell and I wanted her to look like a pixie. I'm wondering if I had installed the mod the wrong way or something... I had tried it with Rose Greenman and her second baby was just fine. Was it a bad facial structure match? 'Cause I was rather worried that I had glitched the game.

My email is sanjouindacapo@yahoo.com and sanjouindacapo@hotmail.com, by the way. Has anyone else had these types of problems?

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