I got bit by a project bug and can't make a decision

[hat_plays_sims]

I want to make a double apron (also called a midwife's apron). But I am conflicted! See, I just completed some top-only kirtles to be worn with bottom-only gowns (well. Nearly completed, I need to replace textures with fresh pngs Body Shop hasn't eaten, and slave ages together) and I'm torn.

Floor-length bottom-only aprons in this style (that won't really be compatible with the top-only shifts and placket shifts I've made, but like Sims in horrifying separates combos is new or unusual) on Cynnix's bottom-only trained gown...

OR

Mid-calf full-body-outfit aprons in this style on I'm not sure what mesh-- the Frigg dress,] maybe, I've got a child conversion for that (and it would work just as well for a floor-length apron), or the old Dark Project layered dress, which has good skirt dimension but I hate the sleeves. (Not a fan of the tight top but that's an issue with separates, too.)

Pros for a bottom-only apron, I'd only feel like I had to do eight linen colors (... maybe also dirty/bloody recolors. It's a midwife's apron). Cons, the skirt mesh I like for that big massive apron has Maxis heeled shoes. (Potential solutions, use a different skirt, or work out how to make a heeled mesh look like wooden pattens.)

Pros for a full-outfit apron, I can guarantee a loose-fitting torso on the Frigg dress, and show more color of the dress underneath since I don't have to go all the way to the hem, whether or not I use the layered dress. Also, could make for interesting maid/Uni cook/BV housekeeper defaults. Cons, I'd feel like I had to do all 82 colors I work with to go under the linen; also there are those sleeves on the layered dress.

Comments

[oeselian]

I did test with all the top meshes You gave me - they fit(had to remove row of faces around the arm to archive this.Hope it's not a problem)
only one that wasn't compatible was fancy sleeve one
also i did add UV map image to the album - does it looks ok?
i also moved vertices closer to the body around chest
if thats okay,all is left to do is to add morphs and conversions
can't do screenshots right now - greenshot is throwing tantrums
EDIT: added some in-game pics

[hat_plays_sims]

That's not a problem, and the fancy-sleeve one causing difficulties isn't a surprise (and I don't use it, anyway). The UV map looks very logical-- what are the pointy rows of faces down at the bottom?

It looks great! I'm impressed it looks so good doing the Meditate animation, that is not a skirt-friendly animation right there. I can't wait to start messing with it. Thank you so much for doing this, and so fast!

[oeselian]

It's inner bottom of the alpha hem,must have left there from the early stage
It can be removed now

I could give You a tryout mesh(no morphs for now)+recolour template
(second option is vital) and just to know that it works in your game too
beside i could possibly not detect all animation glitches

If mesh is good all around i'll add morphs and teen conversion

[hat_plays_sims]

Feel free to send it along, but I'm having trouble getting houses to load today and I don't know why. I may not be able to test for animation glitches until I work that out.

[oeselian]

Here You Go: https://app.box.com/s/9odf4d2kfz9c0szkelfnifzvkzfky1ws
I tried to add morphs too but my Milkshape doesn't like them for some reason
so i couldn't add them but don't worry i give them a second try

By the way thanks for subscribing!

[hat_plays_sims]

Grabbed, thank you! I'll let you know when I can test the things. Good luck with the morphs, and you're welcome-- if you make more goodies, I don't want to miss them!

[oeselian]

Had success with the morphs - give me some time for them
Also i did uploaded mesh with wrong GMDC(my bad - sorry!) so if You if encounter some clipping it will be fixed with morphed edition

[hat_plays_sims]

I'll keep that in mind! I should have some feedback tomorrow or Friday, and I apologize for the delay.

[oeselian]

Have morphs almost done - some tweaking and in-game testing needs to be done
new shots with morphs in album

[hat_plays_sims]

*peruses album* ... That does need some adjustment, doesn't it? But other than the patch of clipping on the fat-and-very-pregnant shape, it looks awesome. And I'm constantly impressed it looks that good while meditating-- the other skirt mesh I use a lot does this in meditation, and it cracks me up.

[oeselian]

Yeah i saw this pic in gos and wondered You might like comparison
Morphs(and AF/EF mesh)will be ready tonight,I'll update the post with the link when time comes
Well here we go:
https://app.box.com/s/3a9w2ko8nxipbyd1c6maxh80a0j5nywx
Replace old mesh with the new one
Let me know does it still clips
Plus lower skirt UVs now match Your bottom only placket skirt textures

[hat_plays_sims]

Grabbed! I'm about to start my game so I'll get to see it in action. (Got to look at the first mesh in Body Shop. The overall shape is really nice, I can't wait to see it in motion. ... Also I just made six beards. Do you like beards?)

[oeselian]

Nice,there few good ones out there.
Regardless of the mesh,is it good enough?
I'd like to upload it officially

[hat_plays_sims]

I spotted your comment just as I was coming back this way to offer some feedback!

So far I've only just started testing, and checked out the fat morph in CAS, but I did notice a problem while the Sim walks. There's kind of a lot of clipping with each step, front and back, which would be an issue if there's a contrasting skirt under the alpha layer.

Looks good jumping on a sofa, climbing stairs, being attacked by a spellbook, or playing with a toddler, though! There's no clipping at all that I could spot on the stairs, which is pretty impressive.

[oeselian]

ahh, i see,thanks for the feedback
Will work on it(hmm,narrower lower skirt a little bit)

[hat_plays_sims]

That might do it! I've put her through some more of her paces, and all the clipping I've seen has been from the knees down-- most of it, not even that high. The only issues that went as high as the knee were some extreme conga dance moves I tried out when I finally remembered I have Squinge's Hula And More pack installed.

[oeselian]

i think i chewed through the clipping issue
Hold on,fix is coming

[hat_plays_sims]

Take your time! I've got a few things to take pics of and a few things to relocate in the catalog.

[oeselian]

I'm almost there
Screenshots updates in album too(featuring some very extreme posing plus walking)

[hat_plays_sims]

Those pics look about like what I saw-- punching bag roundhouse kick worked fine, smustling worked fine, but the clipping turned up when walking, descending stairs, or doing the conga (which I've never seen a Sim do in-game, so it might be a DJ booth thing). And then my computer crashed overnight sometime, so I've spent all day running assorted 'are you okay, computer?' programs.

[oeselian]

Thats too bad,I hope things are fine now
I solved clipping issues so it's matter of time getting good working mesh,well if you still want it after all that fuss

[hat_plays_sims]

Computer's working fine, I think I just learned a little lesson about not leaving Sims 2 running on a night I KNOW my antivirus is going to run a deep-system scan. Thanks for asking!

I do indeed still want the mesh if you're still willing to share! I have plans for that mesh, yes I do.

[oeselian]

Okay I think it's done now
There one spot i can't fix tho
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m97/Oeselian/2015-03-03%2018_37_55-The%20Simstrade%202%20Mansion%20and%20Garden%20Stuff_zpsuifuofag.png
Lower skirt pokes through when relaxing on bed
Is that a major issue?I didn't detect any other clipping

[hat_plays_sims]

No, I think that's only clipping because she's got her ankles crossed, which isn't a thing that can be helped (long dresses can get awkward). That doesn't bother me, and it's small enough that if I wanted to take a pic of a lady relaxing on her bed in her sideless surcote, I could creatively angle the shot to obscure it. The clipping while walking was the big deal, to me. Sims walk all the time.

[oeselian]

In this case I'll get You a mesh right away
Update:morphs exploded without any reason,need to start over

[hat_plays_sims]

Take your time! I'm in no rush.

[oeselian]

I'm so done with this mesh!!!
Let's hope no more issues will raise
https://app.box.com/s/8xva68hj8um34vuygkt8wuj310jgi5q7
As usual,replace old with new

[hat_plays_sims]

Grabbed! (Sorry for the delay.) I'll check it out next time I open my game-- thank you so much! Are you still willing to do a Teen conversion, or are you super-done?